tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20406961.post6707979593729706809..comments2023-06-07T09:13:41.693-05:00Comments on Episcopal Chaplain On the High Ground: What Ever Rowan Wants.... (Updated)Marshall Scotthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02807749717320495495noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20406961.post-32803474235391507582008-07-26T12:48:00.000-05:002008-07-26T12:48:00.000-05:00Fr. Scott you are perceptive and right on target: ...Fr. Scott you are perceptive and right on target: the aim to codify and control will only serve further (and deeper) fragmentation. And it frightens me that the ABC can't see that! And that apparently he is so out-of-touch that he thinks such an Anglican Trent would be broadly acceptable.<BR/><BR/>I have searched for hints at his motivations, and, as you and Christopher and others have suggested, the only thing I can come up with is that this is part of his long-term pro-Roman agenda: let's do what will make Rome happy and willing to stay "friendly". As you point out, I can't see it satisfying any of the parties to the conflict. It's surely too late for the GAFCONs who have already moved off the Anglican planet, and it is far too monarchical and prelatial to have any attraction for even the moderates among the rest of us.<BR/><BR/>I also wonder what the next bomb from the right will be before Lambeth adjourns. Do you suppose they can enthrone +Duncan as Primate within the next week? (I'll bet he can just taste it --finally!)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20406961.post-80953224849854213962008-07-25T20:32:00.000-05:002008-07-25T20:32:00.000-05:00Something we've both been warning of for some time...Something we've both been warning of for some time, I'm afraid. I see Fr. Gerns also was troubled. I wrote at the cafe:<BR/><BR/>Like Fr. Scott, I've warned and worried for some time that Archbishop Williams seems to be pushing a particulary Roman Catholic ecclesiology not reflective of our variety of thinking on ecclesiology both today and historically and also not reflective of us as a "Communion" rather than a "Church". As a former Roman Catholic, I didn't join the Episcopal Church to try on a different type of the same clothing. I understood we were catholic, not Roman. Those days may be numbered. <BR/><BR/>As I've said, we could end up with the worst of Rome and Geneva. A primatial curia acting as papacy all but in name coupled with a tendency to the worst of Reformed (read Calvinist) theology. <BR/><BR/>It also seems to me that Archbishop Williams, as Fr. Gerns also points out, is playing at something but it's hard to quite figure. But from here it looks like lull them with indaba and lure them into Faith and Order. <BR/><BR/>The fact is the Windsor consultation folk could have proposed restructing the far more representative ACC in ways that would have made us more conciliar and consultative without denigrating the other orders, especially the laity, but then Archbishop Williams doesn't seem to have much respect for the laity beyond us being spoon fed "faithful" as far as I can tell from his statements about us. But an Anglicanism in which laity are not a significant part of processes throughout, including "at the top" is an Anglicanism that has in some ways disowned our Reformation inheritance.Christopherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10400109177404296836noreply@blogger.com